UN*X pro 286
BzF
bzf na centrum.cz
Pondělí Červenec 8 23:27:48 CEST 2002
Dne Mon, 8 Jul 2002 19:51:27 +0200
"Martin Kukac" <logout na quick.cz> napsal/a:
Zdravím,
> jak jsem uz odpovedel na Usenetu /nevim jestli jste to cetl/, tak bych to
nečetl,
> klidne pod DOSem vyzkousel,
dobrá tedy, chcete to, máte to mít :-)
> nejak se uz bez multitasku a virtualnich konzoli obejdu. Kdybyste mi mohl
> poslat mailem podrobnosti, byl bych opravdu rad.
No, nebudu to celé psát znovu neboť se mě na to už někdo ptal, tak najdu, co
jsem posílal a přiložím to (je to mix česko-anglický, ale snad to bude
srozumitelné(i když zalamování řádek asi moc dobré nebude)).
> Predem diky.
> M.K.
Pokud se vám nechce všechny ty soubory stahovat, tak zkuste mailnout na
pavel.prostredni [at] finish.cz - tomu jsem to posílal v únoru balík
všech věcí, co mám (cca 20MB), akorát sshdos už je určitě novější (0.92).
Kdyby to už neměl, tak mailněte, a já bych to někde pohledal - ale až
příští týden (klekl mi hard, takže to stejně budu muset všechno obnovit
z cd-ček a zipek, ale chvíli to potrvá).
S pozdravem
BzF
-------------------tu to začíná----------------------
> ping, trace a whois --- to zná každý, ale trošku víc. Takové možnosti jako
> v Linuxu tu asi nebudou, ale aspoň něco.
No, tolik ne, ale:
(programu od všeho je víc, ale vzhledem ke své vykopávce jsem potřeboval
opravdu lehké verze, a pokud možno jako na *nixu - malé, jednoúčelové,
rychlé, a to co umí, umí pořádně)
mail client - Pegasus Mail pod Dos (www.pmail.com),
pop3+smtp - pmpop (bud v baliku u pegasusa, nefo na serveru ve stejnym
adresari)
dialer - nd130.zip
packetdriver - dosppp (v. 06) nebo lsppp (ten jsem nezkoušel) pro dial-up
nebo plip od crynwr (.com, .org - nevím) pro paral. kábl
terminátor - termin.com
telnet - nsca telnet, co nejnov. verzi
ftp - na servrech v balíčku poblíž nsca telnet
sshdos - sshdos.sourceforge.net (má i scp klienta, a na těch stránkách
je i odkaz na pěkný ovladač myši)
lynx - chce 386ku, najít port pod DOS (možná by šel zkompilovat i links)
pak se určitě najde nějakej ten ping a pár dalších věciček, ale ty už mě tak
moc nezajímaly, pžípadně balíčky, které toho v sobě obsahovaly víc i
s nějakým rámečkovým GUI - tuším minuet nebo menuet, ale to už si vážně
nepamatuju.
Nějaké zdroje - z hlavy, na řádku klíčová slova
tvdog, dos, internet
Hm, tak jen jeden - měl by najít stránku TVDOG, kde jsou tuny softu
pod dos+net
Jak se dostanu k těm svým věcem, tak to hodím někam na web a ozvu se.
BzF
-------------------------tu končí první kus-------------------
Hodil jsem to na net:
ftp://aftp.vol.cz/incoming/
jmenuje se to dos-mix.tgz nebo tak nejak (ma to cca 20MB)
Doporucuju stahnout co nejdriv, oni to pomerne casto promazavaji.
skvela je i stranka ;-)
http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8926506/siberia.htm
BzF
P.S. sshcko uz je .09
tvdog - neobsahuje soubory (cca15MB), protoze url-ko funguje
neni pmail - da se urc. stahnout, je k nemu i cestina
doslfn - dl.jmena
0-fcni.disketa-snad - snad vsechny spravne soubory z me diskety na
pripojeni. Upravovat pod DOSem (resp. pouzivat cr-lf konce radek!!!)
Nahradit v bat souborech:
svym uziv.jmenem: moje_user_name
svym heslem: moje_heslo
dul. je taky spustit pmpop -c
a upravit jmeno,heslo,smtp, e-adresu, umisteni souboru,
zda mazat, max.vel.souboru.
a projet vsechny soubory (krome exe a com ;-)) a podivat na tel.cisla
a dns (ted pro razdva.cz)
----------tady prikladam, co jsem posilal do sshdos - nekdo se taky ptal
na pripojeni k netu (je to dost dlouhy, za tim je jeste dul.prispevek, taky
ma na zacatku 10x - (aby to slo najit)):
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Subject: Re: [sshdos] error: No Packet Driver Found!
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Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 23:46:03 +0200
I still sometimes use an ancient laptop - CPU 8086, 640kB RAM,
just 2x720kB floppy and external modem 14.4 (just enough for mail
:-) and text editor - and even small dbase editor) - under MS-DOS
or DR-DOS - so it will work with your computer
You probably can't use this with w3.x but maybe it will help.
I include letter I sent some weeks ago to my friend - he wanted to
use his 386 with 2MB RAM, 20MB hdd and some modem - he
succeeded.
--- Here it starts ---
Hi Michael,
You will need (most of it can be found on simtel.net or with my
favorite - google.com) or if you want, I can send it to you.
My ISP's use PAP or CHAP authentication - look at docs in
archives described bellow if your doesn't - or write me.
--- pmpop for sending/receiving mail ---
look at www.pmail.com - it is there - also look for pmail for dos - I
suppose that this you can configure yourself
--- end of it ---
--- dialer - i use netdial - look for nd130.zip ---
--- here is my netdial.scr ---
send "ATZ\r"
recv 6000 "OK"
send "ATX1\r"
recv 6000 "OK"
send "ATX3DT123456\r" 123456 replace with your ISP phone
number; X3 - in Czech republic I have to turn of wait for tone. Or
use DP instead of DP if pulse dialing needed
recv 60000 "CONNECT"
--- end of it ---
--- packet driver - epppd.exe ---
look for dosppp05.zip or dosppp06.zip (this one supports chap
authentication)
now exists lsppp at http://members.tripod.com/~ladsoft/lsppp/ - is
a bit smaller but I have no expiriences with it
--- find somewhere termin.com (or termin.zip :-) ) ---
--- file wattcp.cfg ---
include=path.cfg
nameserver=123.456.789.012 # Replace with your ISP nameserver
nameserver=123.456.789.012 # Replace with your ISP nameserver
sockdelay=40
domainto=30
mss=512
--- end of it ---
--- Now batch files I use ---
remember to change COM port number, BASE, IRQ, speed - some
of them are is in them several times - check it carefully - I use
COM3
BASE 0x3E8
irq 11
38400 # speed
my_username # replace with yours
my_password # replace with yours
--- end of it ---
--- dial.bat ---
@echo off
:DIAL
rem dial up my ISP
netdial COM3 BASE 0x3E8 irq 11 38400
If ERRORLEVEL 2 GOTO CANCEL
If ERRORLEVEL 1 GOTO ERROR
If ERRORLEVEL 0 GOTO PKTDRVR
:CANCEL
cls
echo ---------- You canceled the process ----------
goto ERROR
:ERROR
termin 0x60
netdial COM3 0x3E8 irq 11 hangup
echo Something went wrong :-(
goto END
:PKTDRVR
epppd COM3 0x3E8 irq 11 pktvec 0x60 38400 asyncmap 0 crtscts
user my_username passwd my_password
call IP-UP.bat
echo my_ip=%MYIP% > path.cfg
echo gateway=%remip% >> path.cfg
echo netmask=%netmask% >> path.cfg
echo *** You are now connected ***
echo -----
echo IP is %MYIP%
echo GATEWAY is %remip%
echo NETMASK is %netmask%
echo -----
echo use MAIL for receive/send mail
echo or FTP for transfering files
echo or SSHDOS for _secure_ logging in U*NIX machine
echo -----
echo use HANG to Terminate & Hangup
echo -----
dir *.exe /W
:END
--- end of it ---
--- mail.bat ---
@echo off
:PMPOPS
echo *** Sending and Receiving messages ***
pmpop -s -v
pmpop -g -v
--- end of it ---
--- hang.bat ---
@echo off
termin 0x60
netdial COM3 0x3E8 irq 11 hangup
if errorlevel = 1 goto error
if errorlevel = 0 goto hanged
echo Connection was succesfully terminated and modem hanged-
up
:ERROR
echo Something went wrong :-(
goto END
:HANGED
echo *** I hope I enjoyed it ***
echo Hanging&Terminating successful :-)
:END
--- end of it ---
--- and FINALY ---
type mail to receive and send messages
sshdos -c blowfish -t vt100 -v my_username server.com
If size of files is important (and it is on 20MB hdd :-)), try UPX
packer.
Some DOS TCP/IP related links:
I learned most of it from
www.komaromi.com/dos_email/tips.html
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~glover/pmail/dospm.htm
http://www.oldskool.org/~tvdog/internet.html
look here - here are direct links to probably all files I've mentioned
http://www.dendarii.demon.co.uk/FAQs/dos-apps.html
!!! important - what all can you do with telnet - I will send you how
to configure telnet in next message - propably this week
http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8926506/siberia.htm
http://www.tropinet.com/ppp.html
ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/msdos
http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~ag221/dosppp.html
http://members.aol.com/dosware/
http://dosware.nfo.sk/batch01.htm
http://dosware.nfo.sk/batch02.htm
http://home.aut.ac.nz/~ibatterb/isbutil.htm
---- Here the letter ends ---
Some examples of wattcp.cfg
--- first ---
#
# The following are options specific to Waterloo TCP for network
# configuration.
# DO NOT USE THE DEFAULT VALUES OF THESE
OPTIONS.
# Never guess IP numbers. If you are unsure, contact you
local network
# administrator.
#
# One last note. Once this file is working you may want to take
# out the comments. Removing comments will speed things
up.
# my_ip mandatory option
#
# my_ip specifies a computer's IP address.
# The value may be BOOTP instead of an IP address in the
case that
# Waterloo TCP can configure itself through your available
# BOOTP server. If you are unsure if you have BOOTP
capability
# ask your local network administrator or use your IP
number
# if you know it.
# This value must be unique. If you accidentally share an IP
number
# with another computer, chances are neither machine
will work.
my_ip=BOOTP
#my_ip=192.168.1.1
# netmask mandatory option, unless BOOTP
#
# netmask is simply your [sub]network mask. This value
should never
# be 255.255.255.255
# Ask your local network administrator for the correct network
mask if
# you do not know.
# If you use BOOTP as my_ip, you will not have to use
netmask. Comment
# out the following line if you desire; if you do not
comment
# the line out, use the correct netmask!
netmask=255.255.255.0
# gateway mandatory option, unless BOOTP
#
# gateway is your local gateway. This value should be a valid
IP number
# of another networked computer that your local network
# administrator calls your gateway.
# Ask your local network administrator for the correct gateway
IP if
# you do not know.
# If you use BOOTP as my_ip, you will not have to use
gateway. Comment
# out the following line if you desire; if you do not
comment
# the line out, use the correct gateway IP!
# The esoteric use of gateway allows you to configure a routing
table
# with up to 12 separate entries. Each entry must
specify a
# gateway, an optional destination subnet, and then an
optional
# subnet mask:
# gateway=0.0.0.0[, 0.0.0.0[, 0.0.0.0]]
# You may use the same gateway IP in each entry if
need be.
gateway=192.168.1.1
# nameserver mandatory option, unless BOOTP
#
# nameserver is a networked computer that can tell your
computer an IP
# number of yet another networked computer. You can
have up to
# 9 different nameserver entries, each assigned a different
IP
# number. Waterloo TCP will go through the list of
provided
# nameservers in order of appearance until a valid IP
number
# is determined.
# Ask your local network administrator for the correct
nameserver IPs if
# you do not know.
# If you use BOOTP as my_ip, you will not have to use
nameserver.
# Comment out the following lines if you desire; if you do
not
# comment the lines out, use correct nameserver IPs!
nameserver=192.168.1.1
# domainslist mandatory option
#
# domainslist tells Waterloo TCP your domain. Afterwards,
any computers
# specified without a full domain name will have the
domainslist
# value appended to them.
# For best results, enclose the value of the domainslist entry
within
# double quotes.
# Ask your local network administrator for the correct domain if
you do
# not know.
domainslist="foo.com"
# include optional
#
# include will simply insert another file's contents as if it were
# inside this configuration file at the line which the include
# directive resides.
# Only Waterloo TCP keywords will be recognized in the
included file.
#include=c:\your_own.cfg
#include=..\pppwat.cfg
# bootp optional, esoteric
#
# bootp will use a specific bootp server by specifying the
server's IP.
# If you are not using bootp or have no need to specify the
exact bootp
# server then there will be no need to use to bootp
keyword.
# Ask your local network administrator for the correct bootp
server IP
# if you do not know.
#bootp=0.0.0.0
# bootpto optional
#
# bootpto specifies the amount of time that Waterloo TCP will
wait for
# your bootp server to respond with your network
information.
# The default timeout value is 30 seconds.
#bootpto=30
# ethip optional, esoteric
#
# ethip is used to allow use of multiple IP numbers within the
same
# configuration file with each one being tied to a particular
# ethernet address.
# This is mainly for use of one big configuration file residing on
a
# network that every user can use.
#ethip=00:00:00:00:00:00, 0.0.0.0
# hostname optional, unless BOOTP
#
# hostname allows you to give your computer a name while
Waterloo TCP is
# active. Remote computers will recognize you by the
hostname.
# Do not use another computer's name as your hostname.
# Do not append the domain to the hostname, it will be done
for you
# by appending the entry in domainslist.
# BOOTP will provide a host name for you if used.
hostname=foobar
# sockdelay optional
#
# sockdelay allows you to specify a specific amount of
seconds that
# Waterloo TCP will attempt to connect to a remote
computer,
# wait for data from a remote computer, and wait to
accomplish
# other miscellaneous networking tasks.
# The default is 30 seconds, but may be set longer if you have
an
# especially slow connection.
sockdelay=30
# domainto optional
#
# domainto allows you to specify a specific amount of seconds
that
# Waterloo TCP will attempt to lookup an IP.
domainto=10
# mss optional
#
# mss is the maximum segment size that Waterloo TCP can
receive.
# The default value is believed to be at 1024.
# The maximum value should not exceed 4096. 512 fixes some
# mysterious problems with certain sites.
mss=512
--- end of first ---
--- some notes ---
Notes on WATTCP Apps
--------------------
These are a collection of "example" applications that come with the
Waterloo
TCP programmer's package, plus ftp. You do not need to be
connected to
configure them.
To configure these, edit file WATTCP.CFG. If you already have a
working
WATTCP.CFG file for another application, or a global
WATTCP.CFG that you
use, you can just make WATTCP.CFG here a one-line deal:
include=e:\internet\wattcp.cfg
Otherwise, edit the included file. If you have static IP, set my_ip to
your
static IP address, like so:
my_ip=204.117.9.33
If you have dynamic IP, comment out that line and put this instead:
include=e:\internet\ipaddr.cfg
You will have to arrange for IPADDR.CFG to be created at connect
time and
put its pathname here; see README on my site.
Set netmask to this (do *not* use your real netmask):
netmask=0.0.0.0
If you have a static gateway, put its IP address in like so:
gateway=199.191.1.70
If your gateway is dynamic, either put in the gateway you *usually*
get (as
I used to, I sometimes got 199.191.1.75 instead, but the above still
worked), or comment out the gateway line and use this:
include=e:\internet\gateway.cfg
Again, you will have to make a batch file to create GATEWAY.CFG
at connect
time and give the pathname of the created file; see README.
Set nameserver to your nameserver's IP address:
nameserver=199.191.1.80
Set domainslist to the empty string (it only slows things down if
you give
your actual domain):
domainslist=""
Leave include (the one in the file, not the ones you added, of
course),
bootp, bootpto, and ethip commented out. If you have static IP,
you can set
your hostname to the name of your PC if you like:
hostname=jhayes.buckeyeweb.com
(For me.) For dynamic IP, leave hostname commented out.
Set sockdelay to 60 (this helps if some sites are slow to connect):
sockdelay=60
Set domainto to 20 (this helps with domain lookups, you can make
it even
longer if you need to):
domainto=20
mss is 512 by default. That is a good value for it; leave it alone.
--- end of some notes ---
I hope this will help a bit
BzF
----------jeste by mohlo byt dobre tohle:
X-Orcpt: rfc822;bzf na centrum.cz
From: Paolo Patruno <p.patruno na iperbole.bologna.it>
To: sshdos na yahoogroups.com
Cc: p.patruno na smr.arpa.emr.it
Reply-To: sshdos na yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sshdos] Stazione telematica for DOS version 5.0
Date: 12 Jan 2002 10:58:04 +0100
X-Mailer: Evolution/1.0 (Preview Release)
A new release of Stazione telematica for DOS version 5.0 is released.
http://www.olografix.org/gubi/estate/tele/
Stazione telematica for DOS is a distribution of software collected for
a more easy use on very old computer generation like 286 386 and 486.
Inside you can find sshdos.
The main features are:
Email
Fax (from email program !!)
World Wide Web (WWW) client
text editor
encryption and signing tool
BBS access and email
For 386/486 I suggest you an office suite from New Deal
http://www.newdealinc.com for word process,
) con un processore di testi, foglio elettronico etc.
You can take a look at TESOCRA (telematica sociale critica e
accessibile) http://mostramida.it/tesocra/
All the text is in Italian :(( but programs documentations are in
english. Do you known italian and do you wont to try to translate :)) ?
If you cannot understand italian language you may have trouble but you
can found distribution usefull for you; go to the download section and
try dsk1 and dsk2 for an easy email session. "imposta" is the command
for setup and "menu" for the main program.
thanks for attention.
Paolo Patruno
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