Nove produkty na VypalCD.cz

Zdenek Drvota drvota-l na zds.cz
Pondělí Květen 12 15:17:57 CEST 2003


Dobrý den,
chci se vás z VypalCD/Internet Shops zeptat, zda máte od
Red Hat Inc. svolení k použití jejich ochranné známky
ve spojení s vypalovanými CD, na kterých nabízíte
Red Hat Linux, nebo zda jste odstranili z CD všechny
jejich výskyty (ovšem potom je v rozporu ještě název spojený
s RH).

### martin.klust na internetshops.cz napsal dne 8 May 2003, v 1:05 :

Od:             	<martin.klust na internetshops.cz>
Komu:           	<drvota na zds.cz>
Věc:            	Nove produkty na VypalCD.cz
Datum odeslání: 	Thu, 8 May 2003 01:05:13 +0200

>
> Pravidelné informace o nově přidaných produktech na VypalCD.cz
> **************************************************************
>
> Datum: 8.5. 2003
> -------------------------------
>
> Linux 9 Shrike 1/6
>   Red Hat
>   http://www.vypalcd.cz/detail.asp?lngProductID=21891&lngCategoryID=59
>   9
>
> Linux 9 Shrike 2/6
>   Red Hat
>   http://www.vypalcd.cz/detail.asp?lngProductID=21893&lngCategoryID=59
>   9
>
> Linux 9 Shrike 3/6
>   Red Hat
>   http://www.vypalcd.cz/detail.asp?lngProductID=21895&lngCategoryID=59
>   9
>
> Linux 9 Shrike 4/6
>   Red Hat
>   http://www.vypalcd.cz/detail.asp?lngProductID=21896&lngCategoryID=59
>   9
>
> Linux 9 Shrike 5/6
>   Red Hat
>   http://www.vypalcd.cz/detail.asp?lngProductID=21897&lngCategoryID=59
>   9
>
> Linux 9 Shrike 6/6
>   Red Hat
>   http://www.vypalcd.cz/detail.asp?lngProductID=21898&lngCategoryID=59
>   9
>

Pokud tomu tak není, pak vás musím upozornit, že vaše
nabídka porušuje pravidla Red Hat Inc., viz jejich odpovědi,
a měli byste ji neprodleně stáhnout:

> Datum odeslání: 	Tue, 15 Apr 2003 13:33:21 -0400
> Od:             	Jennifer Ennis <jennis na redhat.com>
> Komu:           	Leos Literak <literakl na abclinuxu.cz>
> Kopie pro:      	Radek Vybiral <Radek.Vybiral na vsb.cz>,
> milan.kerslager na pslib.cz,
>    Zdenek
>  Drvota <drvota na zds.cz>, Viktor Matys <grumpa na qwert.cz>,
>    jennis na redhat.com
> Věc:            	Re: trademark issue
>
> Dear Leo:
>
> Your friend Radek is correct with respect to the removal of the
> trademarks and logo from the RPM. Although the trademark guidelines
> don't specify that, the EULA does. Please refer to this:
>
> See Paragraph 3 under Before Installation:
>
> http://www.redhat.com/licenses/rhl_9_per_us
>
> THE "RED HAT" TRADEMARK, THE "BLUECURVE" TRADEMARK AND RED HAT'S
> SHADOW MAN LOGO ARE REGISTERED TRADEMARKS OF RED HAT, INC. IN THE
> UNITED STATES AND OTHER COUNTRIES. WHILE THIS LICENSE AGREEMENT ALLOWS
> YOU TO COPY, MODIFY AND DISTRIBUTE THE SOFTWARE, IT DOES NOT PERMIT
> YOU TO DISTRIBUTE THE SOFTWARE UTILIZING RED HAT'S TRADEMARKS. YOU
> SHOULD READ THE INFORMATION FOUND AT
> https://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/
> <http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/> BEFORE DISTRIBUTING
> A COPY OF THE SOFTWARE, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT HAS BEEN MODIFIED. IN
> ADDITION, IF YOU MAKE A COMMERCIAL REDISTRIBUTION OF THE SOFTWARE AND
> (A) YOU DO NOT FALL WITHIN AN EXCEPTION PROVIDED IN RED HAT'S
> TRADEMARK GUIDELINES, (B) YOU HAVE NOT ENTERED INTO A REDISTRIBUTION
> AGREEMENT WITH RED HAT, OR (C) YOU DO NOT HAVE A TRADEMARK LICENSE
> AGREEMENT WITH RED HAT, THEN YOU MUST MODIFY THE FILES IDENTIFIED AS
> REDHAT-LOGOS AND ANACONDA-IMAGES SO AS TO REMOVE ALL USE OF IMAGES
> CONTAINING THE "RED HAT" TRADEMARK OR RED HAT'S SHADOW MAN LOGO. NOTE
> THAT MERE DELETION OF THOSE FILES MAY CORRUPT THE SOFTWARE.
>
> I hope this helps. We appreciate your taking the time to determine the
> appropriate way to redistribute the software without violating our
> trademarks.
>
> Best of luck.
>
> Jennifer Ennis
> Trademark Administrator
>
>
>
> Leos Literak wrote:
>
> > Dear Jennifer,
> >
> > thank you for you fast reply. I thought, it made it clear,
> > but it didn't. We're still discussing, what RedHat means
> > by
> >
> > --
> > You may not name or brand your product "Red Hat Linux," or use the
> > Red Hat trademarks in any way, either on your product or in
> > advertising. --
> >
> > We all understand, that the product and its advertisement
> > shall not parasite RedHat and its trademarks (and logos).
> > But we are discussing about content of CDs.
> >
> > My friend Radek thinks, that "My Linux 9.0" must not contain any
> > "RedHat" strings and ShadowMan logos inside (e.g in data, ISO
> > image). In other words, when customer installs "My Linux 9.0", the
> > installation will not contain any "RedHat" string or ShadowMan logo.
> > This is, how he understands a sentence
> >
> > "use the Red Hat trademarks in any way"
> >
> > I think, that this sentence applies to marketing only. E.g. I must
> > use my own trademark, my own logo etc. I cannot promote "My Linux
> > 9.0" with information, that it is based on RedHat, if I show
> > pictures, then they may not contain redhat trademarks or logos
> > either.
> >
> > I don't think, that the sentence forces me to modify original ISO
> > images and remove all RedHat trademarks from it. If I have to, then
> > it means, that I have to modify CDs. But you explained me, how to
> > distribute unmodified redhat. So it is possible to sell unmodified
> > CDs with redhat under new brand. But Radek says, that I have to
> > modify ISO images the way, I expressed above.
> >
> > Who's right?
> >
> > Thank you for the patience and please put your reply into FAQ as
> > well.
> >
> > Sincerelly
> >
> > Leo
> >
> >
> > Jennifer Ennis wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Leos:
> >>
> >> Thank for your taking the time to ask these very good questions.
> >>
> >> 1) If you brand it as My Linux 9.0 and market it as such, that is
> >> OK. You may not use either the RED HAT, Shadow Man or any similar
> >> name or logo. Here are the guidelines for marketing unmodified
> >> copies:
> >>
> >> http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/guidelines/?page=6
> >>
> >> 2) In the RPM package, there is a way to remove the logos and "Red
> >> Hat" string so you are correct. This would be highly recommended if
> >> you intend to use screen shots to promote the sale of your distro
> >> as the RED HAT and Shadow Man logo appear on the screens.
> >>
> >> I hope that these answered your questions. Please let me know if
> >> you need further assistance.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Jennifer Ennis
> >> Leos Literak wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> we have had really hot discussion in our
> >>> Linux User group about redhat trademark
> >>> and possibility to resell CDs with redhat 9.
> >>> I have read guidance but I dont understand
> >>> it still. It may be interpreted various ways.
> >>>
> >>> Let's say, I wish to distribute latest RH 9.
> >>> If I download ISO images, I make no modifications
> >>> and name it as "My Linux 9" (and never say, it
> >>> is redhat in fact), is it OK?
> >>>
> >>> According to
> >>> http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/guidelines/?page=7
> >>> it shall be ok. But on
> >>> http://www.redhat.com/about/corporate/trademark/guidelines/?page=4
> >>> you say, it may not contain either trademark Redhat or Shadowman
> >>> logo.
> >>>
> >>> This may be understood two ways:
> >>>
> >>> 1\ I cannot promote, name or propagate "My Linux 9"
> >>> with RedHat trademark or Shadowman logo.
> >>>
> >>> 2\ CD itself must not hold any reference to RedHat
> >>> or contain shadowman image. This automatically
> >>> implies, that I have to modify content of CD-ROM,
> >>> remove all shadowman images and delete string "redhat"
> >>>
> >>> Which one is true?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for explanation. I hope, that this will cease
> >>> our discussion.
> >>>
> >>> Leos Literak
> >>
> >
> >
>
>
>

Upozorňuji vás z dobré vůle a také proto, že jsem slíbil
veřejně v diskusi linux na linux.cz (kam posílám kopii),
že tak budu činit, abych napravil vlastní pochybení.

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