KOMERCE: Fedora Core 2 a Knoppix 3.4 na DVD

[Zdenek Pizl]

On Wednesday 02 of June 2004 16:07, Luděk Kolář wrote:
> Quoting Zdenek Pizl <z.p na linux-cd.cz>:
> Blablabla...
>
> Veřejné pomlouvání bez znalosti skutečného stavu věci je smutnou vlastností
> českého národa, která se projevuje i zde.

 L.K. odpovedel v jinem emailu:

>Produkt nemá žádnou modifikaci oproti oficiální verzi až na obraz bootovacího
>jádra od Arjana van de Vena, zaměstnance to společnosti RedHat Inc. 
>odpovědného za balíčky jádra distribuce, které řeší problémy na deskách Asus 
>a deskách s chipsetem C3.

tak ma modifikaci nebo nema?

> Co k tomu více dodat: Někdo prostě má a někdo nemá...

ano, nekdo proste ma schopnosti si precist trademark guidelines, a hlavne je 
pochopit a nasledne interpretovat. A kdyz by treba mel pochybnosti, tak se 
muze zeptat primo u Red Hat Inc.

Pokud bude pokracovat v te sve blabla aroganci, tak asi nekde najdu thread, ve 
kterem jsem si ujasnoval s jejich "pravnim" oddelenim prave otazku 
zapracovanych oficialnich aktualizaci. 
 Vysledkem te korespondence byl jednoznacny zaver: "i kdyz to jsou oficialni 
aktualizace, nejsou soucasti originalni distribuce a proto takovy produkt 
nesmi nest nazev Red Hat Linux, potazmo Fedora Core."
 Kdyz uz neumite cist a zrejme jste se ani nepodival na ten odkaz, ktery 
pojednava o osetreni trademarku Fedora, tak snad tomuto uz rozumite.

Ja Vam to tady jeste jednou pro uplnost ocituji z autoritativniho zdroje:

<citace>

z URL: http://fedora.redhat.com/about/trademarks/guidelines/page4.html

Use of the Brand "Fedora"
Fedora™ is a trademark of Red Hat, Inc. and may only be used with Red Hat 
Inc.'s express permission. Except as provided herein, you may not use 
"Fedora" or any confusingly similar mark as a trademark for your product, or 
use "Fedora" in any other manner that might cause confusion in the 
marketplace, including in advertising, on auction sites, or on software or 
hardware. Any party wishing to use the Fedora™ mark may do so as long as they 
meet two conditions:

   1. They must only use the Fedora™ mark in association with the original 
Fedora™ code found on the Fedora Project website (see 
http://fedora.redhat.com/) without modification; and

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ WITHOUT MODIFICATION znamena cesky "beze zmen", 
kdybyste nemel znalost anglictiny (holt nekdo ma a nekdo ne, fakt se 
krrralovsky bavim)

   2. If they charge a fee for the CD-ROM or other media on which they deliver 
the Fedora™ code, they warranty the media on which the Fedora™ code is 
delivered, thus ensuring that the recipient receives a usable copy.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ OK, tohle osetruji ceske zakony, takze to mate.

This same permission applies to such other Red Hat trademarks as are included 
in the authorized Fedora™ distribution, such as RPM™. Except as expressly 
stated herein, no other rights are granted to use any other Red Hat 
trademarks, specifically including the RED HAT® and "Shadowman" logo® marks. 
Absolutely no exceptions.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ABOLUTELY NO EXCEPTIONS znamena - hmm, musim Vam to vazne 
prekladat? 

z URL: http://fedora.redhat.com/about/trademarks/guidelines/page5.html vyberu 
jen casti, ktere se tykaji toho "verejneho pomlouvani":

Shipping Fedora™ code unmodified from the original download with separate 
patches that may be applied by the end user at his/her discretion is not a 
modification of the original code, provided:

   1.      The original Fedora™ code is intact and identifiable at the time of 
installation and on the media on which the code is delivered;

^^^^^^^^^ INTACT - neporuseny, nedotceny, tedy  bez jakychkoliv modifikaci

   2.      The patches are provided independent of the original Fedora™ code 
and are identifiable on the media on which the code is delivered;

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ PATCHES ARE PROVIDED INDEPENDENT - tedy na zvlastnim mediu, 
protoze pokud jsou na stejnem, nejsou poskytnuty nezavisle. Ale to je jen 
moje interpretace.

   3.       The end user is given the discretion as to whether to install the 
patches; and

^^^^^^^^^^^ v poradku, tohle zrejme mate.

   4.       Any marketing materials related to such a distribution make clear 
that the vendor is providing patches which, if installed by the user, will 
modify the Fedora™ code from its original form.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ?? a co tohle
</citace>

Takze co, jeste mate pocit, ze Vas pomlouvam? 

-- 
Zdenek Pizl
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