SK klavesnice

[tibor simko]

dobry den:

prinasam trochu dalsieho zmatku do debaty o klavesniciach.  pomaham na
poslovencovani baliku emacs-czech milanovi zamazalovi so spolocnym cielom 
podporovat slovencinu v distribucii emacs-czech od jeho buducej verzie 
3.8 pocnuc (slovenski zaujemci pouzivajuci emacs-czech <= 3.7 nech sa 
pozru zatial na http://www.dpp.fmph.uniba.sk/simko/local.html#slovak).

patral som teda po definicii slovenskych klavesnic, ale nic moc sucasneho 
som nenasiel.  preto postujem tuto spravu, urcenu najma zaujemcom o 
slovencinu pod emacsom (teda ziadne AltGr pre slovenske znaky), s prosbou 
aby prispeli svojou troskou do mlyna, prv, nez bude ostra verzia 3.8 na 
svete.  

tu je teda muoj navrh:

#1 -- slovenska standardna klavesnica
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 |  ^ |  1 |  2 |  3 |  4 |  5 |  6 |  7 |  8 |  9 |  0 |  % | \v |  ) |
 |  ; |  + |\v l|\v s|\v c|\v t|\v z| \'y| \'a|\'\i| \'e|  = | \' |\v n|
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        |  ` |  W |  E |  R |  T |  Z |  U |  I |  O |  P |  / |  ( |
        |  q |  w |  e |  r |  t |  z |  u |  i |  o |  p | \'u| \"a|
        -------------------------------------------------------------
         |  A |  S |  D |  F |  G |  H |  J |  K |  L |  " |  ! |
         |  a |  s |  d |  f |  g |  h |  j |  k |  l | \^o| \S |
         --------------------------------------------------------
            |  Y |  X |  C |  V |  B |  N |  M |  ? |  : |  _ |
            |  y |  x |  c |  v |  b |  n |  m |  , |  . |  - |
            ---------------------------------------------------

Q: obrateny apostrof (`) patri alebo nepatri do standardu namiesto 
   klavesy `Q'?  pozn. vacsina klavesnic v mojom okoli ho tam ma...

#2 -- slovenska programatorska klavesnica
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 |  ~ |  1 |  2 |  3 |  4 |  5 |  6 |  7 |  8 |  9 |  0 |  _ | \v |  | |
 |  ` |  + |\v l|\v s|\v c|\v t|\v z| \'y| \'a|\'\i| \'e|  - | \' |  \ |
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        |  Q |  W |  E |  R |  T |  Y |  U |  I |  O |  P |  { |  } |
        |  q |  w |  e |  r |  t |  y |  u |  i |  o |  p |  [ |  ] |
        -------------------------------------------------------------
         |  A |  S |  D |  F |  G |  H |  J |  K |  L |  : |  " |
         |  a |  s |  d |  f |  g |  h |  j |  k |  l |  ; |  ' |
         --------------------------------------------------------
            |  Z |  X |  C |  V |  B |  N |  M |  < |  > |  ? |
            |  z |  x |  c |  v |  b |  n |  m |  , |  . |  / |
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Q: tento layout je prevzaty z emailu prilozeneho k cs-tools-0.19, akurat
   som pridal klavesu `~ a klavesu \|  v hornom rade -- je toto skutocne 
   dnesny programatorsky "standard" na slovensku?  teda ci to vacsina ludi 
   takto aj pouziva?  ja preferujem ine riesenie:

#3 -- mnou oblubena slovenska programatorska klavesnica :-)
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 |  ~ |  ! |  @ |  # |  $ |  % |  ^ |  & |  * |  ( |  ) |  _ | \v |  | |
 |  ` |  + |\v l|\v s|\v c|\v t|\v z| \'y| \'a|\'\i| \'e|  - | \' |  \ |
 -----------------------------------------------------------------------
        |  Q |  W |  E |  R |  T |  Y |  U |  I |  O |  P |  { |  } |
        |  q |  w |  e |  r |  t |  y |  u |  i |  o |  p |  [ |  ] |
        -------------------------------------------------------------
         |  A |  S |  D |  F |  G |  H |  J |  K |  L |  : |  " |
         |  a |  s |  d |  f |  g |  h |  j |  k |  l |  ; |  ' |
         --------------------------------------------------------
            |  Z |  X |  C |  V |  B |  N |  M |  < |  > |  ? |
            |  z |  x |  c |  v |  b |  n |  m |  , |  . |  / |
            ---------------------------------------------------

Q: vyhoda oproti klavesnici #2 je, ze znaky ako $%& etc su lahko 
   dostupne, co clovek oceni v takom TeX-u :-)  cisla mi az tak 
   nechybaju (mrtva klavesa alebo numlock).  pozn. tento layout sa 
   podoba na preferovany layout cz klavesnice od jana kybica, 
   postovany sem pred nejakym casom.

teda na zaver: ak pouzivate slovencinu a emacs-czech, alebo aj nie, 
poslite mi vase pripadne namety na zlepsenie veci... (napriklad 
odpoved na referendovu otazku, ci preferujete riesenie #2 alebo #3).  

dakuje a zdravi
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